The Gorgias by Plato. - HTML preview

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Platos Gorgias

GORGIAS: I answer, Socrates, that rhetoric is the art of GORGIAS: In my judgment, Socrates, they are not the same.

persuasion in courts of law and other assemblies, as I was just now saying, and about the just and unjust.

SOCRATES: And your judgment is right, as you may ascertain in this way:If a person were to say to you, Is there, SOCRATES: And that, Gorgias, was what I was suspecting Gorgias, a false belief as well as a true?you would reply, if to be your notion; yet I would not have you wonder if by-I am not mistaken, that there is.

and-by I am found repeating a seemingly plain question; for I ask not in order to confute you, but as I was saying that the GORGIAS: Yes.

argument may proceed consecutively, and that we may not get the habit of anticipating and suspecting the meaning of SOCRATES: Well, but is there a false knowledge as well one anothers words; I would have you develope your own as a true?

views in your own way, whatever may be your hypothesis.

GORGIAS: No.

GORGIAS: I think that you are quite right, Socrates.

SOCRATES: No, indeed; and this again proves that knowl-SOCRATES: Then let me raise another question; there is edge and belief differ.

such a thing as having learned?

GORGIAS: Very true.

GORGIAS: Yes.

SOCRATES: And yet those who have learned as well as SOCRATES: And there is also having believed?

those who have believed are persuaded?

GORGIAS: Yes.

GORGIAS: Just so.

SOCRATES: And is the having learned the same as hav-SOCRATES: Shall we then assume two sorts of persua-ing believed, and are learning and belief the same things?

sion,one which is the source of belief without knowledge, as the other is of knowledge?