
A Point of View with Grant McGaugh and Mike Kim Brand Master So I didn't really know what was possible, but I was experiencing a present negative, trying to move to a future positive, even though I didn't know what it was. Yes. And that kind of got the wheels turning. I started looking up di erent podcasts. I started googling things, trying to learn. Much like, you know, you, you shared just a few minutes ago with everybody here about how you and I met, at least online with through my content.
And so I was just like looking for answers and it began this slow journey, but in retrospect, it happened pretty quickly. Well, and I think you had for me as an outsider looking at you, we spoke about this even earlier, like sometimes you don't hear from the people that are listening to your content, and it's always good to get that feedback.



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